<KnileBar> vasco: what are the new features/revisions of kick3.2 ?
> vasco: any estimated release time?
<mindeye> vascoat what is epp ?
<Eetu> Vasco: And what is that 'new bus' it's supposed to have ?
<KnileBar> vasco: Is it a tower/deskctop or a a1200 like case ?
<Kirben> VascoAT:Most import thing, what price is the new amiga going to be?
<Eetu> Vasco: Ugh, just speak, we'll soak everything you say for sure :)
<rauper_> VascoAT: What's going on man!
<xxx> VascoAT: Is't possible to get a pictiure ?
<VascoAT> Its an own processor-slot (new) to keep PCI, Zorro, PowerPC as an optional expansion. I forgot the new 24-bit printer driver!
<KnileBar> vasco: has it an EC or a real 030 ?
<VascoAT> Yesterday the prototyp was opened and I got pictures from inside. The design of the new prototyp is an an vacuum-cleaner.
<VascoAT> EC cause its much cheaper to get the PLCC than the PGA version
<Howard-MD> Vasco: Just write info, the suspense is killing me! =)
<rauper_> Vasco: Tell us more!
<Kirben> VascoAT:What about the price? this is what could make it a success or failure
<KnileBar> Vasco: any GUI changes you have seen of V3.2 ? Or only minor bug-fixes ?
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<VascoAT> sorry Power-Crash! Not my fault. The Price: about 1500 DM
<deadly4s> vascoAT:monitor included right???
<SamRules> VascoAT: Tell us about OS3.2
<KnileBar> vasco: desktop model ?
<VascoAT> It's gray!
<rslayer> VascoAT: What does it look like, beside the color?
<VascoAT> OS 3.2: Bugfixes known from Rom 3.1, 24bit printer..., Super-IO-Support,
<Orgin> VascoAt: So what is "Super-IO-support" ?
<Drizzit> Vasco: SuperIO? Explain.
<SamRules> VascoAT: What is Super-IO-Support and EPP ?
<VascoAT> It looks as a vakuum-cleaner; I like it
<Switch> VascoAT: What about networking??
<VascoAT> Super-IO meens all the new IO-Features (FIFO, EPP)
<ReFly> VascoAT: Is there anywhere (WWW) info of that new model, and about OS3.2?
<SamRules> VascoAT: Vakuum-cleaner ? Does that mean it's desktop ?
<Eetu> VascoAT: BTW, who are you ? ;)
<VascoAT> http://www.amiga.de and then about 4 klicks
<rslayer> VascoAT: It has de detachable keyboard right?
<VascoAT> Yes it has a detachable keyboard
<Drizzit> Vasco: Tell us, did AT opt for IDE, EIDE, SCSI, or SCSI-FAST?
<Kirben> vascoat:how much ram is included with the new amiga?
<Switch> Vasco: Zorro? PCI?
<Switch> vascoAT: how does it feel to be the centre of attention?
<KnileBar> vasco: where are you at the moment ? How is the AT stand like ?
<csd> Vasco: How big is the AT stand? A small table with a couple of A1200s? :-)
<VascoAT> ATs TCP/IP: as255r2
<KnileBar> vasco: How much memory has it standard ?
<Troels> VascoAT: You mean Inet225 right?
<Howard-MD> Vasco: What about HD controllers? SCSI/IDE?
<Huggins> VascoAT: Since I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to technical related stuff like TCP stuff, HOW does as225r2 compare with AmiTCP ??. for setup, ease of use, speed ??. compatibility with EXITING Ami Net software ??. Sorry to load you down though :(..
<VascoAT> 11 amigas here and even more at VillageTronic
<LazaruZ> Vasco: VillageTronic.. Tell us about the picasso IV..
<Eetu> Vasco: So, any Phase5 stuff shown ?
<Huggins> Vasco: heh.. 4 Ami's here :)... I might start a show of my own :))..
<Drizzit> Vasco: What hard drive interface is the new Amiga gonna use? SCSI2, SCSI2-FAST, IDE, or EIDE?
<VascoAT> Sorry no info about the price of 3.2
<VascoAT> new harddrive interface is EIDE
<VascoAT> Sorry phase5 is not at the CeBIT
<Eetu> Vasco: Anything done about slow chipmem ?
<SimD> vascoat: Any idea about cost? or is that still to be decided?
<Ptr> VascoAT, is the prototype running AOS 3.2?
<VascoAT> I wasn't allowed to leave this area and thus hadn't the possibility to see VT
<VascoAT> We try to sell the new AMIGA for about 1500 DM
<Huggins> VascoAT: hehe... * Sick of our flooding you yet mate :))*
<VascoAT> Yes, 43.xx1 Kick
<Ptr> VascoAT, 43? What happend to revisions 41 and 42?
<VascoAT> And I also have to present the surfer; it's not easy
> vasco: tell us more about the FIFO and EPP stuff
<KnileBar> vasco: How much ram (chip/fast) for standard ?
<VascoAT> Come to CeBIT and ask the developer :-)
<VascoAT> 5 MB Ram, Simm sockets on board
<Switch> VascoAT: Are u confident of this new machine "taking off"?
<Blast_SSP> VascoAT: 5mb ? 1+4 or ?! 2+3 ?!
<SamRules> VascoAT: How about chip/fast mem ?
<VascoAT> DM= german marks (1.45 DM ~ 1$)
<VascoAT> 5 MB= 1MB + 4MB
<SimD> vasco: 1MB chip ram? I hope you didn't mean that :/
<mindeye> vascoat 1mb chip ?!
<Blast_SSP> Vasco: why only 1 mb ? I don't get that.. WHY ?!
<Duden> Vasco: Could you give a quick one message run down on the new machine ?
<VascoAT> Yes the new Amiga is great, if you could see the design ... But I think nothing for the people who have already an A4000. Wait for PowerPC, it comes !!!
<Orgin> Vascoat: 1MB chip ?? Are you sure about that ?
<VascoAT> 1 MB Chip, there is an empty socket for Chipmem
<Ptr> VascoAT, so what is so special about the design then??
<VascoAT> Sure
<ReFly> Vasco: PowerPC cards are coming to models 1200, 3000 and 4000, but not to other (older) models?
<Blast_SSP> Vasco: Why ? It shouldn't be that expensive to put in 2 mb chip from the start! Look at the original 1200 design. It was 1 mb chip too.. But they changed it
<VascoAT> But this may change: the A1k2 was designed for 1 MB Chip and...
<Huggins> VascoAT: This EMPTY Chip simm socket, what MAXIMUM size Simm will it take ??. How MUCH Chip can it handle ??
<SimD> Vasco: most people who won't be able to afford the PowerPC won't be able to afford gfx cards and so will need as much chip mem as possible
<KnileBar> vasco: I think 1 Mb chip for standard is a mistake...even the A1200 has 2mb chip !
<VascoAT> If you have Fastmem, you don't need much chip. Try it!
<SimD> VascoA
<Nomad> VascoAt: What price is OS3.2 going to cost?
* Auryn has to disagree with Vasco on that point.
<Huggins> Orgin & Blast: Yuppo, but WHY the BLANK simm socket then as Vasco just said ??...
<rslayer> VascoAT: Did you say you had DCCable pics?
<SimD> Vasco: I've got 2+2 at the moment, I still need chip ram for gfx a lot
> gilesey: trying to get the VascoAT info!
<Orgin> VascoAt: I have fastmem, but as I don't have a gfx-card I do need more that 1MB chip ...
<VascoAT> We need Fastmem for the speed. There are 6 sockets, 1 used by chip, 1 used by fast
<MuxFolder> VascoAT: I have 1 M of chip and 8 fast and datatypes just keep saying 'out of memory'....
<KnileBar> vasco: so 4 emply simmsockets ?
* Gilesey gets a puzzling /msg from vascoat..
<VascoAT> We didnt include JPEG as datatype
<Blast_SSP> Vasco: you've put a 1 mb simm in one socket right ? Can that socket take 2mb simms?
<Ptr> VascoAT, think you can develope your statement about the design of the new Amiga?
<VascoAT> yes, 4 empty sockets
<csd> Vasco: Is there a release date on this new machine yet?
<Kungen> VascoAT: A4000+PPC == PowerAmiga ? what will be the difference ?
<MuxFolder> VascoAT: 3.4 M sample fits a little poorly into 1 M of chip mem, too.
<Blast_SSP> Vasco: the fastmem simm sockets, how big simms do they take ? 32 mb ? 64 ? doubble side? double length?
<KnileBar> vasco: What about the expansion slots...is it PCI compatible or could be made compatible ?
<Gilesey> whooaah.. maybe we should queue up for questions?.. poor vascoAT seems overloaded
<VascoAT> 32 MB work
<Blast_SSP> Vasco: yeah but what about DOUBLE sides. the 1260 takes only single side (that's a joke...) what about the new amiga ?
<Blast_SSP> Vasco: and double length simms?
<Orgin> Vasco: How does the "slice" system work.
<Switch> VascoAT: is a few gfx chip set being worked on for future PPC amigas??
<SamRules> VascoAT: When will the new Amiga be realesed ?
<VascoAT> Everything that I told is what I see and what I got from the devoloper. But remember: It's a prototyp
* csd points out to NiteFlite that Vasco is at CeBIT, working for AT. That's pretty official in my book.
<VascoAT> august '97
<rslayer> VascoAT: You mean '96 I hope...
<Duden> VascoAT: What processor in in this new Amiga? and what model is it ?
<ReFly> Vasco: Is there any card slots? (and what type they are, if exists)
<VascoAT> It's an 68030 running at 40 MHz
<Switch> Vasco: Is a Amiga notebook on the horizon??
<Ptr> VascoAT, so what is the deal about the design of this new Amiga? Does it come with an external keyboard?
<xxx> VascoAT: What is the name of the new AMIGA ????
<Orgin> Vasco: How does the "slice" system work. (The expansion port system)
<MuxFolder> VascoAT: Cool EC, hoo-ray! No VMM...
<VascoAT> Yes it comes with an external keyboard
<VascoAT> There is no name for the new prototyp: The Projekt is called "Walker" and he looks as a walker
<Switch> Vasco: Modular CPU??
<KnileBar> vasco: there are no more CIA's ?
<Huggins> ANYONE on a PC at the moment ??> Kinda urgent please ??. VascoAT You maybe :))
<Blast_SSP> Vasco: got any pics of it for us ?
<Vicce> VascoAt, is it a tower case?
<Ptr> VascoAT, so what does the case look like then? Is it the long awaited "pizza box" style Amiga by any chance? :)
<VascoAT> The CPU-socket will come up for this feature
<VascoAT> Give me a polaroid and a scanner
<Eetu> Vasco: So was it really '97 ?
<NiteFlite> VascoAT: Your are CeBIT, you can't find a poloroid and a scanner?
<KnileBar> vasco: has the WB any GUI changes ?
<SimD> vasco: It's good that new machines are on the way, wish they didn't use EC030s though
<VascoAT> Sorry I have no time to look for scanners and polaroids
<VascoAT> csd will get what he wants
<csd> Vasco: Cool, thanks ;)
<VascoAT> beginning 97
<Ptr> VascoAT, so what can you tell us about AmigaOS 43?
<Switch> VascO: So the PPC boards will be available before the new amiga?
<VascoAT> We work on PPC thus are not all at the CeBIT :-)
<csd> Vasco: So what do you say to the people that say that AT aren't doing any work on PPC projects?
*** gregh has set the topic: Vascoat go to channel #AT for a proper Q&A please
<Troels> VascoAT: Are you working with PhaseV on powerpc? No need to port the OS twice...
<Howard-MD> VascoAT: Go to #AT.
<Blast_SSP> Vasco: Let's continue on #AT (moderated)
<Blast_SSP> Howard: as soon as Vasco shows up.....
* Howard-MD pokes Vasco. You alive at all?
<Gilesey> alien8: infact he's still here.. VascoAT
<Howard-MD> I could see that, why isn't VascoAT there?
<Switch> VascoAT: Any PCMCIA slots?
<gregh> Howard: Vascoat obviously doesnt want a MODERATED proper Q&A
<Switch> VascoAT: Does the machine have a 64-bit data bus??
<Orgin> VascoAt: Anything against joining #at ?
<Kenneth> Fingerz Cause VascoAT won't go to #AT
<csd> Fingerz: 'cos Vasco isn't around
<Mosh> did vasco say anything before I joined?
EEP ? We *belive* he meant EPP which is:
The Enhanced Parallel Port protocol was originally developed by Intel, Xircom and Zenith Data Systems, as ameans to provide a high performance parallel port link that would still be compatible with the standard parallelport. This protocol capability was implemented by Intel in the 386SL chipset (82360 I/O chip). This was prior tothe establishment of the IEEE 1284 committee and the associated standards work.
<SimD> You can in theory achieve 500K/s to 2MB/sec using the EPP
<LazaruZ> Check out http://www.fapo.com/eppmode.htm for details..
